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2/3/2013 9:55:00 PM
Letter: SANE proposal is just that, sane

EDITOR:

Based on my reading about and study of the SANE Solutions to Federal Immigration, a proposal developed by a group called the Real Arizona Coalition, it would seem some have misinterpreted the SANE program to be one of amnesty for illegal immigrants.

It is anything but that.

The SANE acronym in fact represents four distinct and feasible goals. None of them are de facto advocate amnesty, to which I am unalterably opposed.

S: Secure our borders. In short, gain control of the borders.

A: Account for all the 11 to 15 million people who are in the U.S. unlawfully. Identify them and know where they are. People from Mexico are not the only persons who are in the U.S. illegally.

N: Necessary reforms to strengthen and streamline the currently complex and confused federal bureaucratic process for handling legal and illegal immigration.

E: Engage all levels of government in determining solutions. Local, regional, state and federal officials and leaders, businesses, corporations and citizens must commit to overcoming what currently seems to be an impasse.

I firmly believe that the SANE proposal (which I might add Yavapai County Attorney Sheila Polk has strongly endorsed) warrants intelligent and thoughtful consideration for what it is - a well-reasoned proposal to gain control of the immigration crisis that Arizona and the nation are facing.

The SANE proposal is not a path to amnesty and immediate citizenship for those who are in this nation unlawfully. Rather, it is intended to force Congress and the government to meet head-on the unsecured borders and illegal immigration problem. The SANE option is eminently more desirable than having a federally mandated program forced upon U.S. citizens.

Ray Newton

Prescott




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Reader Comments

Posted: Tuesday, February 05, 2013
Article comment by: An American

You are correct, there are folks among us who "bristle" even at the thought of simply enforcing the current laws......As I have stated, it is a corrupt system, managed by corrupt individuals. If the bazillions of dollars we have spent on "S" had been effective, we would not need to bother American citizens over their citizenship. I do not feel it's the job of the government to provide documentation to anyone, If you can not prove you are an American citizen, then you might have a problem. Documentation should only be made available, not mandated, and what an individual does from there is their business...I am sure I could satisfy most that I am a citizen with what's in my wallet, but when you pile on more laws, rules and regulation, I'm not sure I could comply, or even want to.

Posted: Tuesday, February 05, 2013
Article comment by: @An American

I agree with you. I would have no problem showing my ID. It would probably require getting a Federal ID meeting certain guidelines. Still no problem for me. But many aren't as reasonable as you and I are. I can see problems that some legal citizens might have getting hold of the necessary documents, but that is another issue.
But even you must admit, that many would bristle at the idea of having to come under further control of the government. I stand by my statement. That being that if President Obama were to undertake a program designed to make every resident prove his or her citizenship that there would be a call to impeach him. By the way showing your papers to a cop that is investigating your privilege to drive is far different from coming to your home demanding to see proof of citizenship. And that would be a necessary requirement for the letter writers plan to work. Reference the A in SANE. Just showing a drivers license to a cop who stops you for speeding would be an ineffective way to identify those here illegally. They are not even required to drive.


Posted: Tuesday, February 05, 2013
Article comment by: An American

If those not possessing correct documentation were actually deported, I would gladly show my ID everyday, many times a day, it costs me nothing, the system we have now is pathetically corrupt, and is helping to bankrupt our nation.....BTW every time I have been stopped by the cops the first thing they ask for is "your papers"

Posted: Monday, February 04, 2013
Article comment by: @An American

Your comment to @ray just made my point. I am not talking about inconveniencing undocumented. You cannot identify the undocumented without at the same time identifying the those who are legally here including YOU.
So let me ask you this An American. How would you take it if a fed showed up at your door and your place of employ asking questions and demanding to see proof that you and your relatives are a citizen of this country?


Posted: Monday, February 04, 2013
Article comment by: An American

@@Ray, and yet to inconvenience 99.9% of responsible firearm owners is okay??? Just a bunch of damn hypocrites.

Posted: Monday, February 04, 2013
Article comment by: J K

Tom Steele exemplifies why there will never be anything done to address the undocumented population already here. Get ready for more of the same. Republicans complain that nothing is being done by the federal government about immigration while at the same time resisting any efforts to to address the problem.
The elusiveness of what it means to secure our border is the key issue. We've made great strides in reducing the number of people crossing into our country and at the same time deportations are among the highest levels in history. The problem is there is no number attached. Some, probably Steele, would demand that as long as one person is able to come across the border , it isn't secure. Securing the border is too subjective a phrase, and it is just an excuse to do nothing. Again,no ideas, just complaints.


Posted: Monday, February 04, 2013
Article comment by: @ Ray

Wouldn't accounting for and identifying the 11 to 12 million undocumented also mean you would have to identify the rest of the population too. If you know the uproar caused in right wing world by the last census where people could just refuse to answer, you know what an impossible task you are calling for.
You wouldn't be able to just take a person's word for it, you would have to require proof. Would you be willing to show paperwork to a fed to prove you are a citizen.? Then of course, you would be forced to carry an ID showing your citizenship. "Papers please"
And what percentage of the population are we talking about? At the most 3-5 %. Would you give up your freedom for that small percentage?
I can already hear the nut jobs calling for impeachment if Obama endorsed your plan


Posted: Monday, February 04, 2013
Article comment by: Tom Steele

Complete the "S" before any action on the other elements. You don't have to look any farther than 1986 under Reagan, the elements Democrats will enforce and which they will not. Republicans MUST demand legal conditions for any changes in our immigration law until our southern border is deemed secure by Republicans. Then, and only then can any slack be given to those who broke the law.



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